Wednesday, September 16, 2009
alarming cost
Tuesday, September 15, 2009
Quantity over Quality Health Care
Quality care is receiving the medical attention patients deserve. Doctors are doctors for a reason. If doctors only cared about money, and not people’s health, they should have been businessmen. Primary care is the start to quality care, but most doctors just want to fit in as many patients as possible- more patients more money, but not more care. Primary care doctors should spend more than five minutes with their patients and provide a comprehensive exam. If patients can examine themselves, which soon patients must resort to because doctors aren’t caring for them, they wouldn’t go to a doctor and wouldn’t have to pay for it with their time and money. Most people without insurance suffer because of
I think America spends enough on health care, but most of that is wasted to pay for expenses that don’t involve caring for one’s health. Since when did patients have to suffer from overtesting, medical errors, high administrative costs, hospital inefficiencies and other unnecessary areas? The only person that benefits from overtesting is the doctor, at the patients’ expense! The only thing the patients get out of their visit is an unnecessarily high bill. It is not the patients’ fault that doctors and hospitals cannot maintain their offices. It is also not the patients’ fault that doctors goofed. Hospitals are meant to be clean and doctors are meant to keep it clean. If doctors can ask the patients about their history, patients should be able to ask doctors about their own history, mainly about “did they wash their hands.” So why should patients have to suffer their consequences? It is the doctors that should suffer from their malpractice and their unnecessary costs, not the patients. If they spent half their energy to improve on their administration and inefficiencies as they do on improving their profit margin, patients can maybe receive what they are paying for- quality care.
Medicine as a Band-Aid
The demand side of the equation needs just as much reform. I was pretty shocked after reading this article in the NY Times "Big Food vs Big Insurance": http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/opinion/10pollan.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1253081165-y35BhkGbk5zqTRcphZywfg. I'm just pasting in the text because the author is much more eloquent!
"To listen to President Obama’s speech on Wednesday night, or to just about anyone else in the health care debate, you would think that the biggest problem with health care in America is the system itself — perverse incentives, inefficiencies, unnecessary tests and procedures, lack of competition, and greed.
No one disputes that the $2.3 trillion we devote to the health care industry is often spent unwisely, but the fact that the United States spends twice as much per person as most European countries on health care can be substantially explained, as a study released last month says, by our being fatter. Even the most efficient health care system that the administration could hope to devise would still confront a rising tide of chronic disease linked to diet.That’s why our success in bringing health care costs under control ultimately depends on whether Washington can summon the political will to take on and reform a second, even more powerful industry: the food industry.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, three-quarters of health care spending now goes to treat “preventable chronic diseases.” Not all of these diseases are linked to diet — there’s smoking, for instance — but many, if not most, of them are.
We’re spending $147 billion to treat obesity, $116 billion to treat diabetes, and hundreds of billions more to treat cardiovascular disease and the many types of cancer that have been linked to the so-called Western diet. One recent study estimated that 30 percent of the increase in health care spending over the past 20 years could be attributed to the soaring rate of obesity, a condition that now accounts for nearly a tenth of all spending on health care....
Cheap food is going to be popular as long as the social and environmental costs of that food are charged to the future. There’s lots of money to be made selling fast food and then treating the diseases that fast food causes."
The American way of eating has become the elephant in the room in the debate over health care.Also check out this related article: "Getting Real about the High Price of Cheap Food" http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1917458-2,00.html
"But cheap food is not free food, and corn comes with hidden costs. The crop is heavily fertilized — both with chemicals like nitrogen and with subsidies from Washington. Over the past decade, the Federal Government has poured more than $50 billion into the corn industry, keeping prices for the crop — at least until corn ethanol skewed the market — artificially low. That's why McDonald's can sell you a Big Mac, fries and a Coke for around $5 — a bargain, given that the meal contains nearly 1,200 calories, more than half the daily recommended requirement for adults. "Taxpayer subsidies basically underwrite cheap grain, and that's what the factory-farming system for meat is entirely dependent on," says Gurian-Sherman."
Obesity accounts for 10% of all health care spending?!? 30% of the rise in costs over the past 2 decades? But the US government has spent $50 billion in the past 10 years subsidizing corn (and indirectly fast food)? I think we need to re-evaluate our contradictory policies, examine their long-term and indirect impacts, and be consistent in our objectives. Obesity (and health behavior) is clearly the elephant in the room but merely blaming overweight individuals is not the solution. Prevention isn't just about getting a MMR vaccine or about a yearly physical but is about changing our lifestyles, which could and should be encouraged through public policy. For example, requiring restaurants to post nutrition facts visibly on their menus, or company bonuses for maintaining a healthy weight, etc. We could also tax gasoline and improve our public transporation...gas is about $8-9 per gallon and many more people bike/use public transit. Also, we need to give the health care industry financial incentives to prevent chronic diseases. Otherwise, costs will continue to escalate, whether we reform health care or not. Chronic disease is no longer synonymous with old age either - young adults and even teens and children are increasingly being diagnosed with diabetes, hypertension, etc. In my field (Gerontology) there is some speculation that the current cohort of children may be the first generation to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents. Ironically, as technology improves, we are able to keep the sickest alive which lowers population health but simultaneously raises costs. But if we can change the incentives, "suddenly, every can of soda or Happy Meal or chicken nugget on a school lunch menu will look like a threat to future profits." (Michael Pollan)
Lastly, here's a link to an article about T.R. Reid's new book (the guy from the Frontline video) "Healing of America" :
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/health/15book.html?ref=health
And an interview with him on NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112172939
Sorry for the ridiculously long post! But I'm in Texas this week so you won't have to hear me blabbering on and on in class:)
Moving to Taiwan?!?
So...I think we are definitely spending enough money, maybe even a little too much. Or perhaps our money is just not being divided into the right places? I think that the US needs to take a step back and realize what are our priorities in this country?? Health care and education should be on top! (Thats another issue though-) So...I think that we need to focus on primary health care for all, especially those who are unemployed and uninsured at the moment-and I also think that if other countries, Taiwan for example...can look at all the wrongs and rights other countire have made with health care systems, and form their own...WHY CANT WE?!?!?! ....I think that its a culture thing pretty much-and we are too selfish and money hungry in this country to learn from others-we have to be "better than everyone else" or something like that...but HAHA are we really at this point?? I THINK NOT. haha...
Also, quality health care should mean that everyone has access to medical treatments, primary care, etc...no matter your socioeconomic status, race, anything! The way I see it is...ok so suppose right now...mostly the wealthy get the best treatments right? Well...suppose the "poor or middle class" people walk around carrying some disease--even the uninsured/unemployed--and they cant do anything about it because of lack of medical care...wellllll...this could affect all the OTHER people living around them..which could spread...and eventually lead to the "wealthy " people-are they aware of this!?!?
We're spending enough
It seems that these questions always come down to a cost benefit analysis. Unfortunately for planning purposes, the benefits are measured in other units than dollars. Is the cost of a slightly more expensive drug worth the 0.5% decrease in mortality? Who makes those decisions? Right now, the market makes it. And the people will pay. We don't want to let people die, even those in pain with little or no chance of recovery. Some of the most expensive, least likely to work treatments are for those patients with little chance of recovery, and we are trying to eke out a few more months. There needs to be some regulation of those decisions, cost benefit analysis and decision trees. We need to make it easier for patients to decline the more invasive options, and easier for doctors to take the less invasive approach when deciding between two treatment options.
There is an adage in medicine "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras" which is to say that common things are common. However, we are all trained to make sure that its not a zebra, because there is always a case of "you should have known, but you missed it". This does come down to defensive medicine, which is related to malpractice, but not only malpractice. Its looking into a patients eyes and knowing that they are just the same as your sister, your father, your daughter or your son, and wanting to make sure that you are doing what is best for them. Public health pushes us to think of the big picture, how trends affect medical care and which treatments are the best for the most people, but we as individuals don't like statistics. We play the lottery because we think "I know that for most people, that is true, but what if this one is different". I don't think that mentality is going to change.
As for the idea that happy health care is good health care, I agree for different reasons than other people have stated. Happy people are less likely to sue. People happy with their health care are less likely to seek care elsewhere and have repeat tests. Multiple studies have shown that in cases of medical errors, the best course of action for the practitioner is to admit the mistake, be forthcoming and express remorse. Saying you're sorry isn't the same as admitting guilt. The idea being to develop that relationship with the patient and keep them happy.
There are always little things we can do to keep costs down: like the ideas of choosing lighter colored rooftops and keeping your tires filled to combat climate change, the idea of increasing handwashing and decreasing nosocomial infections and medical errors is incredibly important. Some of the mechanisms in place to make those things happen may not be the most efficient/cost effective (hmmmm....JCAHO requirements), but are certainly a step in the right direction. Free vaccines and health care maintenance/preventative screenings are also a key step in the right direction, and I was happy to hear Obama talk about it.
The NY Times article listed "Not following doctors orders" as one of the main costs, but didn't address it in the body of the text. I assume this means patients not following recommendations. I have no idea how they came up with that number, but I think it would be more if it included public health initiatives. If only it was easy to quit smoking, lose weight, get more exercise, cut fat intake, use condoms, wash our hands.....
Dan Shaer
As President Obama said in his address to congress last Wednesday, "We've estimated that most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing health care system — a system that is currently full of waste and abuse. Right now, too much of the hard-earned savings and tax dollars we spend on health care doesn't make us healthier."
Why do MRI scanners cost significantly less in Japan than they do here in the U.S.? The Japanese pay $98 for an MRI scan. In the U.S. they pay around $1200 (these figures are from last week's blog articles). The government should regulate such costs.
As a future doctor I'm sure that I would like to keep my practice up on technology if that technology improves treatments as well as makes my work more efficient. For example, in dentistry there is new technology that takes a 3D digital impression of a patient's teeth and creates an accurate wax impression in the lab using a special wax printer. This replaces the old fashioned alginate impressions (the nasty-tasting slimy material) which are much more prone to errors, are time consuming, and are uncomfortable for the patient. The costs may be higher but the results are priceless. This is the kind of technology that I consider legitimate spending.
Technology advances in everything--EXCEPT OUR OWN HEALTHCARE IT SYSTEMS? WHAT?
Quality care to me means patients feeling happy about their experiences when they see their doctor or when they stay in the hospital. Quality care doesn't necessarily just mean improving outcome because someone can come out of a hospital feelilng better physically, but they might not be happy emotionally or fiscally even, which may negatively affect their health (and outcome) later on. However, I do agree that we need to cut costs.
The main problem with our healthcare system is its inefficiency in terms of a poor infrastructure and high administrative costs. How can we be spending so much on certain technologies (like treating heart attacks), while forgetting to apply that same technology to our IT systems? Why can't we apply that technology right now on standardizing insurance claim forms? Why can't we apply that technology towards making it mandatory to have electronic health records and drug entry? We have that technology, and we need to spend some money now to save later. By computerizing everything, it allows us to save money on mistakes of ordering extra tests and such.
Put in ≠ Get out (Kelly Leech)
The reasons why health care is too expensive are:
1)The inputs are more expensive (salaries, technology, drugs)
2)The system is more inefficient (fragmentation, higher administrative costs, private not public financed)
The reasons why the health care isn’t better quality are:
1)Supply of health care professionals isn’t higher
2)Hospital stays and capacities are less
Although U.S. does have more access to advanced medical technology there is no evidence proving the necessity of this technology in certain health care treatments and procedures (unnecessary costs again!).
So basically, “United States spends more on health care than any of the other OECD countries spend, without providing more services than the other countries do” (Anderson, Reinhardt, Hussey and Petrosyan).
I like this question because it’s a comprehensive critique of the U.S. health care system. Sometimes the debate just proves that U.S. spends too much, but by providing an explanation in relative terms (with other developed countries) why these costs are worrisome (because services aren’t better quality) strengthens the argument for universal coverage.
Quality health care to me is full access to health care – primary and specialty (if deemed necessary by professionals) with no regard to preexisting conditions, socioeconomic status or geographic location. Since the health care system left as a free market cannot provide quality health care, government must intervene to ensure it does. The professional alongside with the government should serve and provide health care for the individual as their human right.
What can we do?
Reading through the two articles, I found that they both gave very different arguments. I completely agree that the U.S has made phenomenal progress in the treatment of issues such as heart attacks, cancer, HIV, and many others. When HIV first arose, there were not any antiviral drugs that prolonged the life span of those affected. But now so much has changed and so much progress has been made. Those who have HIV sometimes live full and long lives because of the new technology and medicine that exists. I believe that the article written by David Brown therefore makes an excellent point- these improvements would not be possible if it was not for greater monetary investments. HOWEVER, I believe that the prices of health care in America are in desperate need of regulation. The Pricewaterhouse Cooper data presented in the CNN article was so depressing! 1.2 trillion dollars of overspending due to defensive medicine and over testing, ineffective use of technology, hospital readmission, high administration costs, processing claims, medical errors, ignoring doctor's orders, unnecessary ER visits, and hospital acquired infections! That is outrageous! There definitely is a call for reform, but I still do not know how to go about reform. My question is similar to what many of you asked: How do we cut waste without affecting quality of care? And if other countries could accomplish this task, America should theoretically and practically be able to as well, right?
Where is the money going?
Your money vs. Your health
The unnecessary tests and procedures that doctors order to protect themselves against malpractice suits is an absolute waste of money and time of the patient. However, the worst part is when patients are exposed to harmful side effects such as x-ray radiation and the over-use of prescription drugs from the unnecessary testing. In this case, patients are not only wasting their money and time but in fact, are getting worse outcomes in terms of quality of health care. The article also said that doctors order defensive medicine simply out of greed. Clearly, a balance between malpractice issues and cost of the health care is needed. President Obama also briefly mentioned that he wants the Dept of Health to work with states to reduce malpractice suits in his recent proposal on last Wednesday. The defensive medicine drives the cost of health care up to $ 210 billion every year; therefore we do need some kind of policy or regulation to prevent a larger amount of money directly going to the drain from the defensive medicine.
Because emergency room medical care is more expensive than routine medical care, we must reduce the number of non-emergencies seen. Most of the users of ER are poor and uninsured people; hence the high price of ER could have been avoided with much lower investments in the primary care unless they need immediately treatments. Here, we need to emphasize more on access of health care. The goal of recent health care reform is to cover all people in U.S. Obama's plan will allow them to treat people with preventative care which is much cheaper and will reduce overall number of emergency room visits. On the other side, if we are to insure 47 million more people, don’t we need more money to cover all of them?
We are spending almost 1/3 of our health care expenditures in administration costs. I believe that the EHR will help save billions in health care costs through improving efficiency and reducing the number of unnecessary medical documents. It definitely would be faster, more legible, and most importantly, advantageous in minimizing the cost of administration and increasing investment on areas actually efficient such as primary care.
The definition of quality in the health care can be varied by individuals; it may deal with the satisfaction of patients and better health outcome. But I strongly believe that access must be the first step toward achieving the quality of health care system.
$1,000,000,000,000.00 = 0
The biggest factor that contributes to this excess comes from overtesting, or “defensive medicine.” Our doctors are practicing “defensive medicine” because of offensive patients. Doctors are watching out for their own tails and jobs. This is understandable considering patients willingness to sue at the first hint of human error. I’m curious as to how much money is paid out due to malpractice awards every year? How much of this can we pin to the list of health care waste? A cap to malpractice awards seems reasonable and timely.
We are also at fault for wanting the newest, best, and most expensive health care products and procedures. Examples include: Going to the ER for strep throat, buying $1200 TPA vs. $300 streptokinase, and purchasing the $800 metal stent vs. the $2200 stent. We are “getting what [we] pay for” since we are asking for the best.
I realize that I didn’t cover all of the factors contributing to health care waste, but it still seems that we are the instigators to many of them. The CNNMoney article gave some of Obama’s reform ideas for these factors, and on the surface they look like they will help. But, I am skeptical, yet hopeful. Solution can only be seen after results.
So, in conclusion, is health care a right? Yes. I believe everyone who needs help should receive it. So then, the question becomes what quality health care should everyone receive? The best quality health care or just good quality health care? I think Americans, individually want the best health care for themselves, but this would only deepen our health care debt and fuel our waste. We need to tighten our loose pockets and let out some air from our egotistical minds and consider the idea of community. Let’s go to a general practitioner for minor illnesses! Lets buy streptokinase and the cheaper metal stent! Then, good health care for all!!
Monday, September 14, 2009
How are we not spending too much on healthcare?!?!
What really stood out to me between the two articles is that even though but writers are taking different opinions on whether the US spends too much on healthcare or not, they still were able to make a fairly long and overlapping laundry list of wasteful spending contributors in our health care system.
Unfortunately, a lot of these contributors are part of our broken fragmented circle of health in this country. For example, David Brown of the Washington Post said that this year we will spend approximately $93 billion on the treatment of coronary heart disease. He states that this is worth the money to treat this many people. However, wouldn't it be more effective to stage primary care interventions encouraging people to change their diets and exercise routines, etc. Wouldn't it save billions in the long run to fund prevention instead of just throwing expensive surgeries and medications at the problem?
Also, in Parija Kavilanz's article from CNNMoney.com, it is stated that a few of the overspending problems come from ERs being used as primary care clinics and hospital readmittance because of patients being discharged too early. Both of these problems could be solved with a better insurance and healthcare system. The lack of insurance or insurance coverage is determining whether these people get to see primary care physicians or if they can stay long enough to heal in the hospital!
Between the two authors I noted them both saying that contributors to our overspending were: inappropriate care, defensive medicine and over testing, high administration costs, inflated prices, fraud, processing claims, ignoring doctor's orders, ineffective use of technology, hospital readmission, medical errors, unnecessary ER visits, and hospital acquired infections. In my opinion, no matter how you feel about our healthcare spending, I can not see how someone could look at the list of contributors and say we are not spending too much. I definitely think we are.
Saturday, September 12, 2009
not medicine, but prices are killing the patients
The USHCS offers great, comprehensive health care but it does not offer it at affordable rates for the population. This is a big area where the health care system could use some reform. We have discussed in the past how the USHCS is run much like a business in this country where insurance companies make large yearly profits and people are dropped from coverage on minor, ambiguous claims. For being a business, it would never make the Forbes 500 with as much money that is wasted or lost in the system.
In my opinion, quality health care would be more affordable, not with exuberant prices or administering procedures which are unproven in their effectiveness for the price tag associated. This system overall is not bad, it does offer good medical care, just the prices are killing the patients.
Reasonable cost or complete waste??
Through the articles, I think the cost of nowadays medical care has increase year by year, and drug companies, hospitals and most health care related business companies are all profit orientation. New medical treatments do cost a lot of money, but I don’t think that’s the excuse for spend too much money on health care or medical related cost. Even the new drugs and new treatments seem to do the really good job, but if there is a better health prevention program and education provide to everyone, maybe the number of most health behavior related disease cases have the chance to drop. The waste problems could be improved by many ways, for instance, the U.S. doctors rely too much on the medical-tech tests, sometimes, the simple health assessment and physical examination can determine the patient’s condition; and there should be a family doctor clinics or a primary care center for every county or city, and that should reduce the cost for patients use the ER as a clinic. The electronic health records and other new technologies can also help to reduce the waste of resources and costs. The waste problems could be solved. I think the priority problem is that “Is the health care reform are necessary to everyone?”
The ideal quality health care to me is like everyone can have access to all kinds of health care, and there’s no waste of the unnecessary medical cost. The government should have the national health insurance program for everyone and I don’t mind if there is a little extra co-payment adds to my medical bill. People would not sacrifice their rights to health care or medical treatments just because the medical bills are too much or the insurance coverage don’t cover the payments. I think everyone should have the equal rights to health care.
It All Comes Down to $$
It is quite astonishing to realize the amount of money wasted in health care from the estimates that Pricewaterhouse Cooper provided. I can not believe that $420 billion is spent on defensive medicine and insurance claims alone. Though this is a huge inefficiency, I wonder what the U.S. could even set in place to significantly reduce this amount without re-structuring our entire health care system.
In a related issue of costs from Obama's speech (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/09/obama-health-care-speech_n_281265.html), he speaks of how reducing inefficiency in Medicare and other aspects will help fund for his new $900 billion plan. He also said that if health care's rising costs are cut by just .10% (less than 1%) that it would save $4 trillion in the long run. I'm not sure how long the 'long run' is exactly, but that is an absolutely astonishing figure.
So all in all, these talks of reducing costs seem to relate to either cutting the quality of health care for patients or reducing waste. I doubt that we would want to reduce treatments for life saving technology no matter how expensive the best care is. So how do we exactly go about cutting waste??
Friday, September 11, 2009
Technology = Friend Not Enemy
The situation reminded me of a quote used by Obadiah Stane in Iron Man to describe the lack of technology in the Middle East, “Technology has always been the Achilles heel in this region.” The only problem is that we are the exact opposite; as a society, we are always obsessed with the fastest, loudest and biggest technologies, regardless if they are medical or electrical. Consequently, we are always willing to pay top dollar for that tiniest fraction of improvement just so we can say we have the best or are better than our neighbor.
This train of thought is costing the country billions of dollars wasted unnecessarily. There needs to be a regulation system put in to place whether by the government, providers or insurance companies to control the excessive use of some technologies. In addition, we need to learn to embrace technology, similar to what Taiwan and Japan did, with the usage of smart cards to carry information and computers to control claims and billing. Through this, we can significantly cut administrative costs like those two countries did.
Unfortunately, in order to make the changes needed to save money, we are going to need to pay sacrifices through both cutting our health care expenditures and paying extra for the set up of new technologies. I’m not sure how many people are willing to make those sacrifices yet.
Thursday, September 10, 2009
Discounted medicine
I always thought it was amazing just how many acquired illness are from hospital infections. Dr. Atul Gawande has an entire section in his book "Better" about washing hands. Doctors and nurses only wash their hands one-third to one-half as often as they're actually supposed do. And this accounts for something like 2 million cases of acquired hospital infections...of which some 90,000 die. There's an entire procedure for how to properly wash your hands. I don't think any doctor or nurse completely adheres to it--not because they don't care, but when you see patient after patient after patient day in and day out, it's easy to forget or slip up.
It seems logical to not over-spend on anything, but when it comes to healthcare, there's almost this mentality like "how can you put a discount on health?" But just because the price of something is low, doesn't mean that it's of poor quality.